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Maria Pacana's avatar

Having a same-age, equally gifted cohort is so important. I was in an excellent gifted program through 8th grade. I was the best student in my class, but only had a couple of friends. For high school, I went off to a public boarding school for math + science nerds. I was no longer the top student -- far from it -- but I finally had a normal social life. My roommates and I stayed up all night playing video games and listening to illegally downloaded mp3s. I dated a boy who I met on the math team.

It's sad how California has turned away from gifted education. My husband grew up in California and didn't have any friends until he started in a GATE program in 4th grade. He's still good friends with his GATE classmates. Today, GATE doesn't really exist. Even if a district has a process for identifying gifted kids, they aren't pulled out into a separate class or program. They don't get to meet their peers until high school or maybe even college.

I understand that the public schools need to focus on the kids at the other end of the spectrum, but it gives me little motivation to enroll my own son in a public school.

I went to Yale when I was 16, which was a regrettable decision, but I'll save the story for another comment.

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That's powerful stuff. I also had a rough time in school and with my mental health. I also took comfort in Zen Speaks, Laozi Speaks, Confucius Speaks, growing up. The Chinese language ones came out in 1987 and 1988, when I was 6 or 7 years old, my godparents gave them to me.

My first involuntary admit was at age 6 for an autistic meltdown (in the 1980s) and I was brought in by the police. My parents were pissed. I grew up in District 75 - segregated special ed, and considered too dangerous to be around normal kids.

Because of this, I was harangued by my parents for being in a punitive, segregated public school in the first place, compared to gifted kids who attended Bronx Science, and for my hospitalizations bankrupting them. So and so's kid goes to Brooklyn Tech, and you don't even have a chance to prove yourself due to a forced IEP.

What a forced IEP meant was, even if I passed the Brooklyn Tech exam, I was barred due to my court appointed, "needs".

For my weekends, I wanted Chinese school and academic cram school and violin, not autism therapies. I came from a perfect, hard working immigrant family, my mom worked 60 hours a week, with so many resources that my brother was gifted. But I knew we were more privileged than most other families.

I felt even smaller when I realized, that gifted kids parents were poorer than mine. That their families of five lived in studio apartments, while we had 1 bedroom. Meanwhile I got the cops called on me at school because I didn't know I was being aggressive in my tone of voice. They call it a lack of insight in psychology.

I felt ashamed of being special needs. But now that I read the experiences of gifted kids I realize I maybe didn't get the short end of the stick after all. Gifted school is a form of special ed, too.

I eventually got along, we played connect 4, Jenga, and Uno. My school mates escape was Hip Hop, Anime, and arcade games similar to D&D, such as Street Fighter. This wasn't permitted under afterschool rules, and a bunch of us got teacher and state enforced parental punishments *at home* because we watched Akira. Nevertheless, I internalized the feelings of inferiority. As we got older, antipsychotics made most people gain weight. I didn't see people doing well. It sucked. I wanted to do well and to escape the special ed scene.

Now in my 40s, I notice that nobody in my school got married or had kids. I'm glad that you were able to have a kid and escape the cycle. I am 44 years old and as a female growing up in special schools I don't want my kid to go through the demoralization and 2 hour short bus rides. But at the same time gifted school isn't the answer either.

School is supposed to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic and to connect you to the kids around you in your neighborhood. My brother went to a gifted high school in Brooklyn. This also gave him problems because he had less diverse life experiences. As you can see yourself, the high pressure in gifted schools can make you suicidal until you start reading the Bible. The solution, IMO is to just have zoned schools. I think we should be connecting to our neighbors. The one room school house? Yes please.

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